"What proof? I've yet to see physical or scientific proof that *any* god or gods exist."
The only proof we have that wind exists is to see its effects. Wind isn't a provable thing in and of itself. So you look at the things that are moved by it and then you can say it exists. The same goes for God. You can't see him, there is no proof beyond seeing the things affected by him. I've had my life affected by him, so I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he exists. I don't even begin to try to understand all the workings of what he does and does not choose to do. My faith kicks in with things like that. I just trust that he knows something more than me and that what he does (or doesn't do) makes sense in the grand scheme of things. I can't imagine why he doesn't just open up the sky and wave at the world and say "Howdy, here I am!". But because of what I've seen of God, I have to believe there is a solid reason for it.
Either he opts not to make himself obvious to everyone, or perhaps it's simply that not everyone is willing to see the proof, I dunno. I don't think I want to know, because either way I don't understand it. Maybe the time for you isn't yet, or maybe (though I personally don't believe it) you are right. It doesn't much matter to me in the end. He is real for me, and I put my faith completely in him. I would love to see the whole world believe in him, but I most certainly don't expect it to happen and I don't have any reason to judge anyone who doesn't believe in him.
"Caring is someone who respects my beliefs and *doesn't* think I need pity or sympathy."
Maybe it's just a matter of definitions being different between us, because I don't think that sympathy and caring are mutually exclusive. I don't disrespect your beliefs. As I said the last post, I was under the impression that you had no beliefs, that you couldn't figure out what you believed. For me that is just as bad as having lost a parent.
I don't pity you for the beliefs you have. Just because I don't relate to them and the fact that in my ideal world you would believe in God, doesn't mean I don't respect that your opinion differs from mine. Trust me, I'm not so deluded to think that my ideal world and reality would ever collide.
"As I said before. I believe in myself, and I have fatih in my abilities. That's enough for me."
Which is where my confusion came from. I didn't define Agnostic as that. As far as I knew, that would be humanism.
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The only proof we have that wind exists is to see its effects. Wind isn't a provable thing in and of itself. So you look at the things that are moved by it and then you can say it exists. The same goes for God. You can't see him, there is no proof beyond seeing the things affected by him. I've had my life affected by him, so I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he exists. I don't even begin to try to understand all the workings of what he does and does not choose to do. My faith kicks in with things like that. I just trust that he knows something more than me and that what he does (or doesn't do) makes sense in the grand scheme of things. I can't imagine why he doesn't just open up the sky and wave at the world and say "Howdy, here I am!". But because of what I've seen of God, I have to believe there is a solid reason for it.
Either he opts not to make himself obvious to everyone, or perhaps it's simply that not everyone is willing to see the proof, I dunno. I don't think I want to know, because either way I don't understand it. Maybe the time for you isn't yet, or maybe (though I personally don't believe it) you are right. It doesn't much matter to me in the end. He is real for me, and I put my faith completely in him. I would love to see the whole world believe in him, but I most certainly don't expect it to happen and I don't have any reason to judge anyone who doesn't believe in him.
"Caring is someone who respects my beliefs and *doesn't* think I need pity or sympathy."
Maybe it's just a matter of definitions being different between us, because I don't think that sympathy and caring are mutually exclusive. I don't disrespect your beliefs. As I said the last post, I was under the impression that you had no beliefs, that you couldn't figure out what you believed. For me that is just as bad as having lost a parent.
I don't pity you for the beliefs you have. Just because I don't relate to them and the fact that in my ideal world you would believe in God, doesn't mean I don't respect that your opinion differs from mine. Trust me, I'm not so deluded to think that my ideal world and reality would ever collide.
"As I said before. I believe in myself, and I have fatih in my abilities. That's enough for me."
Which is where my confusion came from. I didn't define Agnostic as that. As far as I knew, that would be humanism.