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changeyourstars8 ([personal profile] changeyourstars8) wrote2006-01-05 12:47 pm
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When did TV shows become this important?

My friend got a phone call at work about the TV show coming out, "The Book of Daniel". Which I hadn't heard much about before she started talking to me about it, but now I'm almost tempted to start watching it.

Anyway, the guy was complaining that the show was demoralizing to our Christian society. My friend told him the usual spiel, that she couldn't do anything about it, and he needed to contact NBC Viewer Relations, and she gave him the number, and he replied by telling her, "You're going to burn in hell, you know that?"

And she said, "Excuse me? You have absolutely no right to tell me what's going to happen to me after I die." She didn't yell at him, cuss at him, or figure out a way to murder him over the phone. I'm proud. :-)

[identity profile] shadefell.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"How dare you helpfully give me the information I need to complain about this tv show! You're going to burn in hell!"

I've heard about the show, and won't be watching it because it sounds like utter crap. It's like the creators tried to cram every possible controversial issue they could into the show.
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[identity profile] abydosangel.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mind the burning in hell part..but only if I get to go in a pretty handbasket.

Just sayin..

[identity profile] jadelynx.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Brilliant way to win a person to your side, condemning them to hell. ::rolls her eyes::

This is the exact sort of thing that bugs the crap out of me. You can't say "That show makes my faith look bad!" and in the same breath say "You are going to hell for behaving like the non-Christian that you are!" Sheesh. No one goes to hell for their behavior as opposed to heaven for their behavior (it's all about Jesus and faith in him and nothing else factors in there) and when Christians start expecting nonChristians to behave in a Christian manner, it's even worse.

That's not even taking into account the fact that this poor woman didn't say "I'm sorry, but I'm airing the show anyhow!" She said she couldn't do anything about it and attempted to help him find the right avenue to object with. Personally, I hope his voice doesn't count for much, cause HE is causing just as much trouble as a tv show.

People are so up at arms over this show, but frankly the only way I think it'll fly is if people keep pitching such a loud fit over it. It doesn't look like it's gonna be good enough to keep a viewership anyhow, except that there are a LOT of people out there that would love to watch a show JUST to piss off the loud mouth Christians.

[identity profile] jadelynx.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
he replied by telling her, "You're going to burn in hell, you know that?"

She needs to order some of these. I have a stack in my wallet for JUST such an ocassion:

http://www.getoutofhellfree.com/

[identity profile] rosevaughn.livejournal.com 2006-01-06 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Well...as you know, we aren't airing the show, thanks to those "I know what's best for EVERYONE!!!" people.

Thanks, jerks...I wanted to see that show. What a *great* way to make me think being a Christian is a good thing...

Okay . . .

[identity profile] allthelivesofme.livejournal.com 2006-01-06 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
This is probably going to be a fairly long post, so bear with me. :-)

I myself don't care what they do. I absolutely hate hate hate those idiotic reality shows with the one woman or man and all the slobbering fools vying to be their "one true love". They offend me, because they demean what I believe true love is and ignore what marriage is supposed to be about. So I take what I believe is the most effective tact. I don't watch them.

Those are exactly the shows I'm referring to when I mention programs that offend me. Ugh. And things like "The Swan". Haaaaaate. lol

These people condemn me for my beliefs. How DARE they think they can tell me what's best for me, and how *DARE* they tell me I'm going to hell for airing the show. Every day, I look around and I see 100 reasons why not to be a Christian.

The ones who condemn you for your beliefs are pretty nasty customers-- you know I've run into several of them myself. :-) But other people find good things in the faith. There are several old quotes that apply here-- 'see what you want to see', 'take out of it what you put into it', etc. If people read the Bible and want to see examples of loving other people and doing good deeds, they'll see that. If they read it trying to find justification for being the next Fred Phelps, they'll find a way to see that too. It's not so much the faith that's the problem as the individuals.

I guarantee that if a show was created that acted as if treating black people as slaves in modern times was natural and okay, people would raise an ever living stink.

This is a good point. And I'm not much on the whole boycotting thing when performed by either side-- I'd much rather let the shows air if they can actually find financial backers, and then when/if it flops, those shows won't be funded again. I like the idea of things being judged by the audience rather than people who fund shows being intimidated by a vocal group who might not even represent the majority view of the people who'd check out the show.

'God' isn't going to solve all your problems. That is what you are for. And I'm getting to the point where I think it's cowardly for a person to fall back on the 'big guy in the sky' and say "god's going to fix everything!!!" If you have a problem, suck it up and deal with it.

I'm going to have to disagree here. It's just an opinion I take exception to; I love a lot of Heinlein's writing and in his Notebooks of Lazarus Long, along with one of my favorite quotes about religion, ("There is no conclusive evidence of life after death. But there is no evidence of any sort against it. Soon enough you will know, so why fret about it?"), there's a quote that reads, "History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help."

And I very much disagree with that. Because even atheists don't 'stand up to the unknown without help'. Some of them go for discovering things through science-- can't they just leave it unknown? Aren't they strong enough for that?-- or there's something else that they believe in that doesn't always have a 'rational' basis.

It's not cowardly for a person who has faith to look to God for strength during a crisis. To me, it's kindof the same thing as calling your best friend to talk things over and see what options there are. Yes, people could get through most wretched times alone. But why in the world would you even want to try?

I don't 'feel sorry' for someone who does or doesn't have faith. We all have our own paths to travel to find the best place for us, spiritually and emotionally, and for some people that means a belief in God, and for some it doesn't.

And I think that's it, for now. I'll probably think of something later when I'm in the car and can't get to the computer, knowing me. :-)